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During the roll call vote, a Republican lawmaker reports 26 votes against Emmer


1:23 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

GOP lawmaker says 26 votes against Emmer during roll call vote

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From CNN's Clare Foran, Manu Raju and Sam Fossum

Rep. Tom Emmer arrives at a House Republican candidates forum on Monday.
Rep. Tom Emmer arrives at a House Republican candidates forum on Monday. Win McNamee/Getty Images

GOP Rep. Brandon Williams of New York told CNN’s Manu Raju there were 26 votes against Speaker designee Tom Emmer during the closed-door roll call vote and said that Emmer is trying to resolve the concerns of those members in the room right now on open mic. 

“There were 26 that either voted present or voted for another candidate. Of those I believe there were five that voted present and the bulk of them were for Jim Jordan. I think there was five for Mike Johnson and one for Byron Donalds," Williams said.

“It’s like Groundhog Day, but I think there is a lot of interest in getting out of this process, getting onto the floor, getting to a speaker, and getting moving.” 

Williams also raised concerns about whether his constituents can put up with a speakerless House for another week or so, telling CNN, “they would like to see Congress stand up and act like adults.” 

“Most of the country is concerned about Israel. ... I think most of the country is concerned about inflation, what they’re experiencing at the grocery store. They would like to see Congress stand up and act like adults,” he said.

1:02 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

Rep. Steve Womack says there was "significant opposition" to Emmer during roll call vote

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From CNN's Lauren Fox

From left, House Majority Whip Tom Emmer, Reps. Steve Womack, and Mike Kelly, are seen on the House floor of the US Capitol on Tuesday, October 17`.
From left, House Majority Whip Tom Emmer, Reps. Steve Womack, and Mike Kelly, are seen on the House floor of the US Capitol on Tuesday, October 17`. Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call/Getty Images

GOP Rep. Steve Womack of Arkansas just left the room where the Republican conference is meeting and said there is "significant opposition" to speaker nominee Tom Emmer in the room.

Womack said it's going to be up to Emmer to decide if he wants to go to the floor for a speakership vote, but that he's going to likely want to meet with holdouts and see how set they are in their stances.

CNN reported earlier that Emmer asked for a roll call vote to put members on the record about where they stand and make clear to Emmer who his opposition is in getting to 217 to win the gavel.

12:52 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

GOP member: There are about 10 "no" votes against Emmer

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From CNN's Manu Raju

There are about 10 "no" votes in the House GOP conference against Rep. Tom Emmer, the speaker designee, according to Rep. Dan Meuser of Pennsylvania.

This is enough to prevent him from becoming speaker on the full House floor. Emmer can only afford to lose four defections on the floor.

Meuser told CNN "there are some holdouts" to Emmer’s speaker bid, and that there are "around 10" members opposed to him in the closed-door roll call vote currently underway. 

Asked how concerned he is that there are about 10 "no" votes right now, Meuser told CNN, “I’m concerned. But I think I hope that we have been through this before so we need to finally come to a consensus.”

House GOP lawmakers are still meeting behind closed doors.

12:46 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

GOP member won’t say if she’ll vote for Emmer on House floor

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From CNN's Clare Foran, Manu Raju and Sam Fossum

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna stands with fellow lawmakers on the House floor on October 20.
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna stands with fellow lawmakers on the House floor on October 20. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna of Florida would not say if she will vote for GOP Whip Tom Emmer on the floor when asked by CNN’s Manu Raju.

“It’s being looked at right now," Luna said when asked by CNN if she'd back the Minnesota Republican.

12:33 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

Emmer calls for GOP conference roll call vote

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From CNN's Annie Grayer

After winning the nomination, Speaker designee Tom Emmer asked for a roll call vote, as CNN reported would happen. This will put members on the record about where they stand and make clear to Emmer who his opposition is in getting to 217.

That House GOP roll call vote is happening now, according to Rep. Doug LaMalfa of California.

12:44 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

JUST IN: House GOP selects Rep. Tom Emmer as new speaker nominee

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From CNN staff

Rep. Tom Emmer of Minnesota has emerged as the House Republicans' latest speaker nominee after GOP members conducted a multi-round secret ballot voting session Tuesday morning, according to Rep. Elise Stefanik.

Emmer defeated a panel of seven other fellow Republicans Tuesday to earn the nomination. However, it remains to be seen if he'll have the necessary votes on the House floor to get the gavel.

Here's the vote tally from the fifth round of House GOP voting for speaker, which was won by Emmer:

  • Emmer - 117
  • Rep. Mike Johnson of Louisiana - 97
  • Others - 5
  • Present - 1

Emmer's total is still short of the 217 total needed to win the speakership on the House floor.

Who is Tom Emmer? Emmer, the House majority whip, said in a letter to his colleagues shared on Saturday that he was seeking the speakership with the goal of delivering “historic change.” Kevin McCarthy backed the Minnesota Republican for speaker, which delivered an early boost for his candidacy.

Emmer, who voted to certify the 2020 election in a rebuke to former President Donald Trump, could face resistance from some members of the House Freedom Caucus skeptical of the current GOP leadership team and as Trump’s allies have attacked him.

The former National Republican Congressional Committee chairman was first elected to Congress in 2014 and became majority whip earlier this year. Emmer, who lost a race for Minnesota governor in 2010, was a state representative from 2004 to 2008. He sits on the Financial Services Committee.

Here's what we expect to happen next: There is no time or date scheduled for a floor vote as of yet. That will be determined by the Speaker-designee. 

12:17 p.m. ET, October 24, 2023

House Freedom Caucus member does not rule out backing Rep. Emmer for speaker

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From CNN's Liz Brown-Kaiser

Rep. Ralph Norman speaks to members of the media prior to a House Republican caucus meeting in the US Capitol in Washington, DC, on October 12.
Rep. Ralph Norman speaks to members of the media prior to a House Republican caucus meeting in the US Capitol in Washington, DC, on October 12. Al Drago/Bloomberg/Getty Images

South Carolina Republican Rep. Ralph Norman told CNN's Kasie Hunt that he voted for fellow Freedom Caucus member Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida for speaker three times this morning but did not rule out supporting GOP Whip Tom Emmer of Minnesota in the future. 

"Trust is something people are looking for," Norman said, adding that "Tom's honest."

"All these votes go into the equation, but Tom is an honest man," the South Carolina Republican said when pressed about Emmer's vote to certify the 2020 election. "I don't agree with that vote."

Norman noted that Republicans need someone "we can trust" and said "we'll find out who that person is and are they gonna do what they say." He stressed that he wants commitments from all speaker candidates on what they will and won't do while holding the gavel. Specifically, Norman said the Freedom Caucus wants to sit down with the nominee and ask tough questions.

"No," Norman responded when asked by Hunt if he feels pressure to select a speaker today. He argued the position is too important to rush and that the American people are more concerned about issues like gas prices and the border, while the speaker's battle isn't their "highest concern."

The congressman also said that Ukraine and Israel aid must be weighed by Congress in two separate votes, rather than being linked. 

11:55 a.m. ET, October 24, 2023

Hern and Donalds both out as House GOP begins 5th round of voting

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From CNN's Haley Talbot

Reps. Kevin Hern of Oklahoma and Byron Donalds of Florida are both out as House Republicans begin their fifth round of voting.

There are just two candidates left: Reps. Tom Emmer of Minnesota and Mike Johnson of Louisiana.

11:41 a.m. ET, October 24, 2023

Speaker candidates want 217 votes before going to the floor, but not everyone in House GOP is convinced

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From CNN's Annie Grayer, Lauren Fox and Manu Raju

Members of the House of Representatives vote on the House Speaker on October 20 in Washington, DC.
Members of the House of Representatives vote on the House Speaker on October 20 in Washington, DC. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

During the speaker candidate forum on Monday, all the speaker candidates agreed that they wanted to get to 217 votes in the room before going to the floor, a source familiar told CNN. But that doesn’t mean it will officially happen. 

As the voting gets down to the wire, House Republicans will have to decide yet again whether they should stay behind closed doors until a speaker nominee locks in 217 votes, or again go to the House floor with a nominee who has just won a majority of the conference and risk more public embarrassment. 

Speaker candidate GOP Rep. Kevin Hern told CNN on Monday that he and other candidates in the race believe the conference should hold a private roll call vote ahead of going to the House floor to test whether the GOP nominee has 217 votes to be elected. That would avoid the spectacle on the floor that derailed Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan’s bid. 

“I think the consensus is, and I've talked to some of the other people that are running and others that are actually going to be the voting members, and we'd like to see a roll call vote in the basement so that we know this. Because the American people don't want to see another thing that happened like last week with Jim Jordan,” he said. 

GOP Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee told CNN it is important for the conference to 217 behind closed doors because they need to avoid another public embarrassment on the House floor. 

“I do not think it will go to the floor until we have 217 committed,” Burchett said. “If it goes to the floor, it will succeed.”

But not all Republicans are sold on the strategy. Texas GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw told CNN, “it’s impossible” for the conference to get to 217, but added “let’s see who wins. The rebels might be tired.”

GOP Rep. Ralph Norman of South Carolina told reporters in between voting rounds that the conference decided to have a roll call vote once the race narrows to the final two candidates so members can be on the record with who they support.

“We’ll pare it down And then we get it down to I assume the two, we will have a roll call vote.”

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